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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 9, 2016 11:26:06 GMT -5
If you could bring your spouse with you to a small group full of sexless marriage victims, what would you like for them to hear? Imagine watching them squirm in there seats, outnumbered! Think of the discussions! One of mine would be traveling together, and staying in a hotel room. Or going to a wedding together, and encouraging marriage!
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Post by bballgirl on Apr 9, 2016 18:12:13 GMT -5
The message that I would want my spouse to hear would be different at the different stages of our marriage. Almost like the ghosts of Christmas past coming to visit.
First decade - we would water board his ass and find out Why? Why he doesn't like sex? Back then I didn't know it doesn't matter.
Second decade-if she's asking you to go to Marriage counseling don't you think there's a problem? Don't be stubborn or you will lose her!
Post divorce - yeah you should have fucked her Enjoy cooking your own dinner
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 19:51:58 GMT -5
I have a mean streak sometimes, and I admit I've fantasized about a whole WORLD where refusing is considered every bit as bad/wrong/sinful etc. as outsourcing is.
Imagine - you could tell people your spouse is holding out on you, and they would be on your side about it. They'd be indignant on your behalf. Pastors would preach sermons against the terrible sin of refusing. If a politician got caught refusing, it would be all over the media. Refusing would be instant grounds for divorce.
I can dream....
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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 10, 2016 7:20:10 GMT -5
I have a mean streak sometimes, and I admit I've fantasized about a whole WORLD where refusing is considered every bit as bad/wrong/sinful etc. as outsourcing is. Imagine - you could tell people your spouse is holding out on you, and they would be on your side about it. They'd be indignant on your behalf. Pastors would preach sermons against the terrible sin of refusing. If a politician got caught refusing, it would be all over the media. Refusing would be instant grounds for divorce. I can dream.... To be continued: all the men would be hearing that your spouse is a rejector, and would be asking you out for a date!
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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 10, 2016 11:48:52 GMT -5
Another great discussion to have in front of them with a whole room full of supporters, would be: having children, and being put on the back burner on a stove that no longer works!
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Post by unmatched on Apr 10, 2016 20:51:45 GMT -5
I have a mean streak sometimes, and I admit I've fantasized about a whole WORLD where refusing is considered every bit as bad/wrong/sinful etc. as outsourcing is. Imagine - you could tell people your spouse is holding out on you, and they would be on your side about it. They'd be indignant on your behalf. Pastors would preach sermons against the terrible sin of refusing. If a politician got caught refusing, it would be all over the media. Refusing would be instant grounds for divorce. I can dream.... What about a new type of sex offenders list, like a list of people who have a history of refusing and emotionally abusing their partners. Then if one of them moves into your neighbourhood everybody would know not to date them! And maybe they should be banned from going near places where people might want to meet other normal, emotionally available human beings (bars, restaurants, beaches, shops...)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 21:15:17 GMT -5
I have a mean streak sometimes, and I admit I've fantasized about a whole WORLD where refusing is considered every bit as bad/wrong/sinful etc. as outsourcing is. Imagine - you could tell people your spouse is holding out on you, and they would be on your side about it. They'd be indignant on your behalf. Pastors would preach sermons against the terrible sin of refusing. If a politician got caught refusing, it would be all over the media. Refusing would be instant grounds for divorce. I can dream.... What about a new type of sex offenders list, like a list of people who have a history of refusing and emotionally abusing their partners. Then if one of them moves into your neighbourhood everybody would know not to date them! And maybe they should be banned from going near places where people might want to meet other normal, emotionally available human beings (bars, restaurants, beaches, shops...) Or if you don't want to be as punitive as a sex offenders list - something like the Better Business Bureau. Better Boyfriends Bureau, ha ha!
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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 11, 2016 13:57:43 GMT -5
What about a new type of sex offenders list, like a list of people who have a history of refusing and emotionally abusing their partners. Then if one of them moves into your neighbourhood everybody would know not to date them! And maybe they should be banned from going near places where people might want to meet other normal, emotionally available human beings (bars, restaurants, beaches, shops...) Or if you don't want to be as punitive as a sex offenders list - something like the Better Business Bureau. Better Boyfriends Bureau, ha ha! Bats Belfry Bureau! Bodacious Beauties Bureau! Best-known Betrayal Bureau!
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Post by DryCreek on Apr 11, 2016 14:18:22 GMT -5
Or if you don't want to be as punitive as a sex offenders list - something like the Better Business Bureau. Better Boyfriends Bureau, ha ha! Reputation scoring! Though... it would not be in a woman's interest to give her current BF high marks, as he'd become ripe for the picking. And what woman would give her ex-BF high marks? Hmmm. At least we could tell who'd been around the block by how many reviews they had!
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Post by wewbwb on Apr 11, 2016 14:35:47 GMT -5
The message that I would want my spouse to hear would be different at the different stages of our marriage. Almost like the ghosts of Christmas past coming to visit. First decade - we would water board his ass and find out Why? Why he doesn't like sex? Back then I didn't know it doesn't matter. Second decade-if she's asking you to go to Marriage counseling don't you think there's a problem? Don't be stubborn or you will lose her! Post divorce - yeah you should have fucked her Enjoy cooking your own dinner Um, I sort of hate to say it BUT I'm pretty sure a lot of men out there would cook HER dinner BECAUSE she f'ed him!
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Post by wewbwb on Apr 11, 2016 14:45:20 GMT -5
What about a new type of sex offenders list, like a list of people who have a history of refusing and emotionally abusing their partners. Then if one of them moves into your neighbourhood everybody would know not to date them! And maybe they should be banned from going near places where people might want to meet other normal, emotionally available human beings (bars, restaurants, beaches, shops...) Or if you don't want to be as punitive as a sex offenders list - something like the Better Business Bureau. Better Boyfriends Bureau, ha ha! The monthly magazine can be "Better Homes and Bedrooms"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 16:31:26 GMT -5
I would like to hear something like this...
If you are a refusing cheater, you do not need to identify yourself, but you do need to listen
Then I would want a lot of refused spouses come up to the front, introduce themselves, and talk about the devastating effects of sexual refusal on the victim.
Then I would love it if members of the opposite sex would come up to the refusing cheater, and tell him/her how wonderful, sexy and desirable the refused spouse is, and how much they would love a chance to fuck him/her for a whole week.
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Post by DryCreek on Apr 12, 2016 22:41:56 GMT -5
Then I would want a lot of refused spouses come up to the front, introduce themselves, and talk about the devastating effects of sexual refusal on the victim. I can picture the reaction of many refusers... "Wait. What? Why are *you* going up to speak? But we *have* sex!" Denial.
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Post by bballgirl on Apr 13, 2016 9:20:46 GMT -5
[I can picture the reaction of many refusers... "Wait. What? Why are *you* going up to speak? But we *have* sex!"
Denial.[/quote]
Exactly! Denial! at the end of my marriage after I asked for a divorce my ex tried to reset me one last time. It was the one time in our marriage I got to refuse him. Then he asked me why. I told him I am no longer comfortable to have sex with him. I pointed out that he was a selfish man. I told him he never gave me oral despite him getting it every single time. His response:" yes I did!" Total denial! I called bullshit!
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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 13, 2016 12:34:32 GMT -5
I had the balls/ stupidity to bring up the SM issue in our small group bible study at church!( over 6 months ago) We were talking about marriage and roles in marriage. I turned to my wife, ( who was already tuned out from the whole thing) and asked her, " mind if I mention our SM?" She said " go ahead!" You should have seen the other wives go into silence, and stare at the floor the whole time, as the men grinned! One, just one women openly admitted that she needs to work on that more, and that too many other things become a priority. She really struggled to say it too! Her husband ( a wise man) decided not to make a sound!
My wife never came back to class with me! The other ladies gave me the ceremonial advice, " take her out on a date, buy her things, talk to her, etc..." I explained, and shot down all there logic by telling them of all the years of constant rejection to all those things. They shortly threw their hands up and said, " you're in a tough spot!"
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