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Post by nyartgal on Aug 26, 2016 17:41:38 GMT -5
Occasionally I like to share a moment from a normal, non-Sexless marriage as a contrast to the insanity we have all suffered.
My husband and I had a baby son two weeks ago. His mom is staying with us to help out. She doesn't speak English so it's a little tough for my husband because he is her only conversation partner and she is a BIG talker, but generally it's great to have her here even though she can drive him crazy.
We decided to take advantage of the free babysitting and have a dinner out in the neighborhood after our 2.5 year old and newborn were asleep. But it was one of those hell bedtimes where my husband was out, my toddler was overtired and having a meltdown, the newborn was hungry and my MIL couldn't really help. Consequently, by the time my H got home I was super cranky and stressed, covered with milk and feeling the antithesis of sexy or even presentable.
Nonetheless, we went for dinner and vowed not to spend the whole time talking about babies and that stuff! Ordered some cocktails, ate some nice food, and had a relaxing fun couple hours. By the time we were walking back home a little tipsy we were stopping every block or so to kiss passionately---we both got very turned on even though I can't have sex for another month, but if I could have we would have been tearing each other's clothes off. It was so good to remember that we still have that magic, the attraction, the fire.
Having a difficult evening with the kids beforehand didn't prevent us from feeling sexy together, nor did being exhausted, me having a c-section two weeks ago, having his mother around, or anything else. If this had been in my former sexless marriage any of these things, or probably 20 other things that were completely unrelated would have been an excuse for my ex husband to push me away, not be interested, reject me, or make me feel unattractive.
Four years later I still find normal things like this remarkable! Sex is just part of life. Can you believe it??
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Post by baza on Aug 26, 2016 18:32:09 GMT -5
"Normal". Isn't it glorious. - Where simple things are actually simple, instead of being full of angst and eggshell dancing. Where normal things are normal rather than some lofty unattainable hoop jumping exercise in futility. Where you pull the load of the less than ideal aspects of life together rather than the full load PLUS the dead weight of a recalcitrant spouse. - It's pretty cool.
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Post by nyartgal on Aug 26, 2016 21:08:05 GMT -5
"Normal". Isn't it glorious. - Where simple things are actually simple, instead of being full of angst and eggshell dancing. Where normal things are normal rather than some lofty unattainable hoop jumping exercise in futility. Where you pull the load of the less than ideal aspects of life together rather than the full load PLUS the dead weight of a recalcitrant spouse. - It's pretty cool. It sure is! Normal feels like magic after a SM. No head games: AMAZING!
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Post by itsjustus on Aug 26, 2016 22:34:24 GMT -5
"Normal". Isn't it glorious. - Where simple things are actually simple, instead of being full of angst and eggshell dancing. Where normal things are normal rather than some lofty unattainable hoop jumping exercise in futility. Where you pull the load of the less than ideal aspects of life together rather than the full load PLUS the dead weight of a recalcitrant spouse. - It's pretty cool. Normal Could not have said it better - its pretty damn cool.
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Post by GeekGoddess on Aug 26, 2016 22:54:09 GMT -5
"Sex is just part of life. Can you believe it??" I would love to believe this - - I mean, I do believe it, but I haven't gotten to live it yet. I'm still getting my head on straight right now. As of today, I've been sober 9 months. I've started chatting up a few men on match.com but haven't gone to meet any yet. In my 12-step group, the advice is don't date (newly) in the first 12 months of sobriiety. There are too many other areas to work on (in myself) and anyway, if the show goes badly with a new relationship, we drinkers are very sensitive sorts and it can be used as an excuse for a relapse. So - it's a normal sex-life is all fantasy for me for now. The good part of that is that some of the mystification is wearing away. I'm learning to let go of a lot of angst(and of LoverMan as a true obsession). I'm learning to be friends with guys. We joke around about sex but we balance that with also speaking frankly about it (not just the laughing sorts of conversations, which are often a cover for deep pain - but also expressing very emotionally the deep pains). Most of the guys in my group are "too young" or "too old" or otherwise ineligible. What this has all done is just prove that I can have a LOT of needs for personal connections met without ever having sex with a person. There are men I like to joke with, some I like to talk seriously with, some I seek advice from, some who give me unsolicited advice that I can choose to keep or use or discard - - they are "regular people" and there is no way that a single partner can ever fulfill ALL the needs the way that my group will do for me. I scratch my head when I think of just how isolated I had become in my SM. As if being that isolated with anyone, no matter how scintillating their personality, could ever have been "enough" to keep a life interesting. But especially if that person and I are NOT having sex - - it could not ever have worked out to be fulfilling. So - I am learning.
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Post by JMX on Aug 26, 2016 23:59:25 GMT -5
That's what always brought me back. We were supposed to wait the 6 weeks and went for it week 4. I still healed nicely, but I couldn't help myself.
I really miss those days. I know now the "why" or "whys" and it doesn't make it insurmountable, but it hurts. One is within my control, but unfair and the other is mental and not within my control.
The truth is - they either love you like that unconditionally, or they do not and you fix it or deal or leave.
Congrats to you on finding the one that is unconditional.
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Post by itsjustus on Aug 28, 2016 19:40:45 GMT -5
"I scratch my head when I think of just how isolated I had become in my SM. As if being that isolated with anyone, no matter how scintillating their personality, could ever have been "enough" to keep a life interesting. But especially if that person and I are NOT having sex - - it could not ever have worked out to be fulfilling. So - I am learning." I know what you mean GeekGoddess. It's that isolation that is a killer. Even now, I am in a wonderful relationship, but circumstance and distance keep us not only apart, but somewhat isolated when we are together. I can't say that I completely agree that no matter how scintillating their personality, it could never be enough to keep a life interesting.....it's really, really interesting .....but I am enough of a realist that I know that growth for both of us comes not just from each other, but from interacting with all sorts of people! Family, friends, acquaintances, strangers.... Individually and as a couple. I am very....VERY....much looking forward to the day when we can "mix it up" with all of our friends and family as a couple, and have interactions individually and together with anyone and everyone. To me, thats a huge part of "Normal". I believe its also actually a part of forming that intimate bond, that "just the two of us" clique, when we are home alone, sharing things that we don't to the outside world. Otherwise, there would be no comparative! Lol. The intimacy, the sex, the openness, the no-pretense needed..... the naked us...literally AND figuratively! Even when we share our different perspectives of interactions with others with each other, it is cool because I know very intimately how she thinks, how she views things differently, and i get to blend her thoughts with mine. I love our alone together time. But she didn't become the person she is in isolation, and neither did I. None of us did. But to blend those day to day experiences....AND share them with an intimate partner...should be everyone's normal! Oh....and sex....lots and lots of hot, glorious sex! Lol! Like baza said...."Where simple things are actually simple..."
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Post by nyartgal on Aug 31, 2016 17:23:46 GMT -5
UPDATE: my H is so turned on by my new figure (hello, breastfeeding boobs!) that he tells me nonstop how sexy and beautiful I am and how he can't wait to f**k me. Now that's what marriage is supposed to be like!!
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