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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 1:23:43 GMT -5
Subtitle: Fuck everything
I have shittons of hard work to keep my life from sliding into the dumpster. But it's hard to get out of bed many days. I know objectively my situation isn't that bad. I just don't know if I can conquer my biggest obstacle before she ruins my life. (My therapist fired me this week, that's how it's going lately, as usual the problem is me).
I am my big obstacle. Life won't be the same again but it could be a different kind of good (a job instead of a career but maybe a fullfilling sexful relationship instead of a SM). But I'm fucking unemployed and effectively single (haven't cut the final cord, losing a job, moving and separating is enough trauma for a year). When your self esteem is in the toilet how the hell do you get a job or have a relationship that results in more than being used for sex. I need a job (! first and foremost) and I need a relationship to prove to myself I am not damaged goods.
But depression makes it hard to get out of bed. It whispers to me it's pointless to get a job, it probably won't fully cover the bills (at first, until I can move up) and I'll find myself job huntig again in 5-8 years (fuck this short-sighted, outsource everything, bring in foreign workers on H1B's for alleged skills shortages (lies, there is in fact a surplus), screw everyone but the 0.05% economy) when age discrimination will only make it harder. I'll take some job for shitty pay and shortly thereafter be assigned the work of 2 people (certainly not the pay of 2, you can be asked to do 2 jobs or assigned to be an acting boss while yours is out on medical leave but you'll never get the pay that should go with the extra responsibility and stress. The punishment for good work is having work piled on until you break, like a medieval torture. [these scenarios are from experience and they never end in so much as a thank you, so excuae me if I'm completely disillusioned, I did everythjng right, I played by the rules I got screwed ( as did many many other colleagues). I used to want to excel, now I only want to survive.
Clearly I just have to suck it up. My bootstraps friend would remind me of people who can't walk who would love to get out of bed. I would like to remind Ms Bootstraps that while I wouldn't like to be physically unable to get out of bed of course, I would like my fucking brain to stop making everything except lying between cool white sheets in a silent room feel like climbing mount everest while being pricked with needles.
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Post by JMX on Apr 7, 2016 6:48:21 GMT -5
I feel you Helen. Not the same but close. It is really hard to find a new job feeling like this.
Why in the world did your therapist fire you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 7:36:16 GMT -5
Helen, I only came back because I read this, and another friend asked me to.
Believe me, I know what you are talking about. I don't have any answers because I'd use them for myself if I did, and share them with you.
Just Vent!
Sometimes, it's all we can do when we fall into that black hole of depression.
Hugs & Love.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 7:59:26 GMT -5
Awe Helen, you definitely pull no punches. I love your direct and unyielding analysis -- you understand the problem.
Don't get too mad at your bootstrapping friend. I'm sure she means well. I suspect she's never actually tried bootstrapping -- that's a really hard lesson.
You just need a jump start, a little pushing, and some encouragement (all outside energy).
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Post by Dan on Apr 7, 2016 9:46:22 GMT -5
I saw the title "Pity party at my house! All invited" and my first thoughts were:
a) Cool! b) When??? c) Shall I bring appetizers... or booze... or both?
Then I read your post. I will answer:
a) Alas, not so cool; sorry you are hurting. b) A.S.A.P.!!! c) Definitely booze!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 9:55:23 GMT -5
I'm recommending against the booze. Causes more problems than it solves.
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Post by Dan on Apr 7, 2016 10:03:09 GMT -5
I'm recommending against the booze. Causes more problems than it solves. OK then... Appetizers it is!
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Post by greatcoastal on Apr 7, 2016 10:10:56 GMT -5
Time to get those distant friends to return all those favors over the years. Tell them, don't ask, tell them " I need someone to take me to dinner!" That may sound like bootstrapping, yet you would be saying " I am in need, help me!" Relationships, friendships, are give and take. Time for some taking!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 14:37:04 GMT -5
I'm recommending against the booze. Causes more problems than it solves. Aw, come on. Some of us CAN stop after 2 drinks, you know. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 14:51:18 GMT -5
Helen, I feel you. As most of you probably know - I ended the relationship with my refuser in January. We are still friends, and he says he would "help me in any way he can" but I'm pretty sure that does not extend to taking me back in a relationship.
And truthfully - if the relationship was going to be the same as it was for the past 3 years - I don't want to get back with him. Maybe I'm asking for the moon here, but I would like to be in a stable relationship with a man who is compatible with me physically and mentally. It seems like most of the other people in the world are able to accomplish this, but not me. So I feel like something is wrong with me as a woman.
And, as most of you also probably know - I got laid off from my job. The job that I accepted partly so that I would have a good excuse to move out of the town where my refuser lives, and create a little distance between us. I think that living as a de-facto single for about a year helped me to end the relationship with him. Because when I have a decent-paying job - life as a single is bleak and dull, but not scary.
Now that I'm unemployed and single, life could get scary.
I've only been unemployed for 2 weeks, so I think it's too soon for me to start developing a serious mental illness from the anxiety and depression about it. I found out that I didn't get one of the jobs I interviewed for. But, it would be very unusual to get a job offer out of the very first interview I've had. I did interview at another place last week, but have not heard back from them yet. Luckily, I am seeing a decent number of other jobs to apply for, so I'm applying for everything in the area that it looks like I could qualify for.
I really love it where I live now, but might be willing to relocate (depending on where you're asking me to relocate TO. No deep south, please.)
Helen, I of all people will NOT give you the bootstrap lecture. I loathe people who do that. I would bet money that if any of them was confronted with a breakup and a layoff at the same time, they would NOT be instantly rebounding and be cheerful all the time.
I'm not a saint or a heroine. I do not want to build any more character or get any more "strength" or "personal growth." I'm strong enough and I've grown enough, thank you very much. I do not want to be like Helen Keller, or any other famous person who had a shitty hand dealt to them and then managed to do great things for humanity.
To give me some credit, I'm also not asking to be like the Kardashians or Paris Hilton, who basically do NOTHING and yet get billions of dollars and all the fun a person could want. I never expected to be rich or famous.
I want a decent job that I can keep for at least a few years (fuck outsourcing, downsizing, and general corporate douchebaggery up the ass with a splintery flagpole!) And, I want a normal relationship; and I'm not asking for Prince Charming to just drop into my lap. I'm asking for a compatible man who has about the same attractiveness quotient as me, to see why I'm worth what it takes to maintain the relationship.
Some people might think I'm asking for the moon, but I beg to differ. For middle class people living in a developed nation, a decent job and a normal relationship are NOT asking for the moon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 23:15:39 GMT -5
Thank you for your responses, friends. It helped me just to vent and see myself say the truth on black and white and to read your responses.
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Post by lwoetin on Apr 8, 2016 1:59:12 GMT -5
Thanks for invite. I'll join in drowning away your depression. that's what we're here for...a bunch of cheerleaders to cheer you up. Sorry to hear about your rough time. Things will get better soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 20:33:08 GMT -5
Fucking aye I know how you feel. The work of two people? Hell more like 5. And then when something doesn't get done because you're working on seven goddam projects it gets "escalated" well escalate this bee-otch. Fuck it fuck this shit. Everything is like climbing a mountain. Making a up of coffee. Checking my email. Going for a walk. Making a phone call. Overwhelming. So you triage your tasks and use all your energy on the critical ones and at the end of the day you slip out of your concrete boots and pull the covers up and wish you never had to get out of bed. And somehow you do. But each time you feel like there's less left.
I don't remember the title but I saw a movie where there was this wizard who could summon mystical forces but every time he did, it cost him some of his life energy. That's what this feels like. Every morning you dig deep and find some force you don't even understand and you accomplish the supernatural feat of making it through the day, but each time you wonder how many more times you can do this.
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Post by nyartgal on Aug 28, 2016 21:22:17 GMT -5
I so know how this feels. I've have a ridiculously challenging year of loss after loss, betrayal, serious money problems, death of a parent, you name it. I don't work in the corporate world (which I thought was supposed to be more dependable than the arts---oh well), I work for myself and have been up for some major projects that would have meant financial stability and career advancement multiple times and haven't gotten one. The way I am trying to get through each day is to tell myself that everyone goes through really bad stretches. Eventually our luck usually turns around, or at least isn't always bad. The worst tends to be temporary. But I have to fight a lot of the time to keep all the bad shit that's happened at bay so I don't get in bed for six months to cry. It builds up.
I don't know how I'm going to solve my money problems, how to get more career stability, what will happen next. A lot of the time my problems feel insurmountable. I know though that somehow I will find a way through, because I have to. And you will too.
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Post by JMX on Aug 28, 2016 21:43:26 GMT -5
I so know how this feels. I've have a ridiculously challenging year of loss after loss, betrayal, serious money problems, death of a parent, you name it. I don't work in the corporate world (which I thought was supposed to be more dependable than the arts---oh well), I work for myself and have been up for some major projects that would have meant financial stability and career advancement multiple times and haven't gotten one. The way I am trying to get through each day is to tell myself that everyone goes through really bad stretches. Eventually our luck usually turns around, or at least isn't always bad. The worst tends to be temporary. But I have to fight a lot of the time to keep all the bad shit that's happened at bay so I don't get in bed for six months to cry. It builds up. I don't know how I'm going to solve my money problems, how to get more career stability, what will happen next. A lot of the time my problems feel insurmountable. I know though that somehow I will find a way through, because I have to. And you will too. Such good advice and I feel this way all the time! It's not easy living on the edge of financial and emotional ruin at the same time. and! I also have the same philosophy! Good and bad, bad then good! It all will work itself out, or eventually change for the better! Good luck nyartgal!
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