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Post by sadkat on Oct 5, 2018 12:29:37 GMT -5
baza- at the risk of repeating myself- I love how you manage to say all the right things in the right way! And I’m glad you are farting fairy dust 😂😂
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Post by sadkat on Oct 5, 2018 12:31:23 GMT -5
So there is this "traveller" option on AM for $20. Are you feeling lucky, Daddeeo? (Or is it the Pretender?) Hella yeah. Click. Made another semi-connection with potential to move past the pleasantries. This one is local and she initiated contact. Fun fun. The female account is out if control. I dont know how women manage. But its fun reading some the profiles of "the most interesting men". The more charming they are the more outlandish the profile. And the vulgar profile names some of these guys have. Im curious if there are women that would connect with these guys. There is a part of me that believes yes. Though they would probably never admit it. Cognitive dissonance maybe? Wheels up on my weekend trip. Sending ILIASM love to all the beautiful people in this community. Tune in next time. Same channel. ***Post edit: I dont really plan on executing the traveller option during the business trip. Its more for science (or kick and giggles rather) Have fun all the same @daddeo!
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Post by northstarmom on Oct 5, 2018 12:38:36 GMT -5
i agree with sadkat. I'm also not judging you for planning to outsource. I just don't think you've thought through the ramifications if you get caught as lots of people are caught no matter how careful they are. Your wife has a fiery temper and isn't the type of person to take likely your cheating. if she catches you, she could turn your kids, friends, other relatives against you and make the divorce battle as nasty and expensive as possible. Seems that divorcing now would be less hurtful to you and your kids than having an affair and getting caught....
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Post by javba on Oct 5, 2018 14:13:24 GMT -5
Wow. What a lively debate :-) Loved it.
OK, few thoughts - most of them off the wall.
1. The fake bot population sucks there - that's for sure, and they look pretty good profiles, but are mum never answer. 2. The younger guy population seeking older women makes it a harder segment to compete. 3. The chances of "getting caught" is another risk factor :-)
Sounds signs point towards "sub-contracting" more than "out-sourcing" Not to mention sub-contracting also has great deniability clause built right in - "was not cheating" Finally the time and dollar costs are also favorable.
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Post by sadkat on Oct 5, 2018 14:49:26 GMT -5
javba- please educate me as I’ve obviously missed something in this discussion. What is subcontracting and how is it different from “cheating”. On another note- I’m really starting to dislike the word “cheating”. I can’t fathom how we could be “cheating” if we are not enjoying the full benefit of our marriage contract. Nonetheless, we are lying to our spouses if we do not disclose that we are meeting our needs elsewhere. It’s definitely a quandary.
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Post by sadkat on Oct 5, 2018 14:51:26 GMT -5
Correction javba- the difference between outsourcing and subcontracting. It’s been a long week and my memory is quickly failing.
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Post by javba on Oct 5, 2018 14:56:25 GMT -5
Correction javba - the difference between outsourcing and subcontracting. It’s been a long week and my memory is quickly failing. Look if I am unable to pick age-appropriate women in similar situations - where I am also accused of "having an affair" because 1. There's hotter younger guys looking for them 2. If the women are exploring this they'd rather want a younger guy. 3. The 50's guys are better looking than I am, 4. The female bots have taken over the AM Scene, Then - there's always commercially available younger sub-contractors' willing to lend a hand or more for about the same cost in time and dime as having an affair MINUS the emotional hit i.e. Affair vs Contracting for services not provided in marriage. Out-sourcing - No financial incentives offered. Sub-contracting - Does have financial benefits. AKA Flying commercial.
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Post by javba on Oct 5, 2018 15:01:08 GMT -5
javba - please educate me as I’ve obviously missed something in this discussion. What is subcontracting and how is it different from “cheating”. On another note- I’m really starting to dislike the word “cheating”. I can’t fathom how we could be “cheating” if we are not enjoying the full benefit of our marriage contract. Nonetheless, we are lying to our spouses if we do not disclose that we are meeting our needs elsewhere. It’s definitely a quandary. Look I HATE the word CHEATING because it is not a blame it has the connotations of being a VERDICT So far as I am concerned, I am being cheated out of what was the marital contract of being cared for. I did not sign up for nursing home benefits. I am not a parakeet or a dog that needs to be fed and cleaned. So I have used that word in an avoidance sense i.e. I can avoid that blame. I firmly hold the following belief Outsourcing and Subcontracting are NOT CHEATING. Subcontracting should be legalized.
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Post by greatcoastal on Oct 5, 2018 18:02:01 GMT -5
"nd had a moderate amount of understanding and patients about my lack of "talking dirty, flirting, being bold, touching and taking the lead" things did come more naturally. ( Hard to do in today's #metoo times)" There's a big difference between sexually assaulting someone and making a sexual overture to a partner whom you meet on a hook-up site There is no difference. If you are a male you are guilty even when proven innocent. History continues to repeat itself. Including my own personal testimony, which i will not get into here.
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Post by Handy on Oct 5, 2018 19:24:40 GMT -5
greatcoastal, do you suppose some of the "guilty until proven innocent" comes from the relationship your had with your XW?
I used to get in a mental dark place when I worked on office machines for 2 or 3 days straight and no one was willing to fix anything. All I earned in those 3 days was a $25 evaluation fee and even then some people didn't want to pay the $25. I got so down a few times I got the notion not many people wanted things repaired and wondered if I needed to get in a different line of work.
For me it is about the same way when I don't make progress in my personal relationships. My giver is empty and I become discouraged.
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Post by greatcoastal on Oct 6, 2018 9:43:50 GMT -5
"nd had a moderate amount of understanding and patients about my lack of "talking dirty, flirting, being bold, touching and taking the lead" things did come more naturally. ( Hard to do in today's #metoo times)" There's a big difference between sexually assaulting someone and making a sexual overture to a partner whom you meet on a hook-up site There is no difference. If you are a male you are guilty even when proven innocent. History continues to repeat itself. Including my own personal testimony, which i will not get into here. www.facebook.com/thegrumpyguru/videos/1170503729756515/May the mind of men be healed. let's put an end to telling rape stories, only when a man mentions having a conversation with a woman.
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Post by choosinghappy on Oct 7, 2018 6:10:26 GMT -5
There is no difference. If you are a male you are guilty even when proven innocent. History continues to repeat itself. Including my own personal testimony, which i will not get into here. www.facebook.com/thegrumpyguru/videos/1170503729756515/May the mind of men be healed. let's put an end to telling rape stories, only when a man mentions having a conversation with a woman. Is this a fucking JOKE?!
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Post by greatcoastal on Oct 7, 2018 7:12:33 GMT -5
No. Your profanity is not necessary and will not be tolerated.
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Post by northstarmom on Oct 7, 2018 7:32:32 GMT -5
Choosing happy saId: “Is this a fucking JOKE?!”
Unfortunately that’s the way he feels. It’s a waste of time to try to explain to him the truth that most women who are raped do not report it no matter how vile the rape is. A very small proportion of the reported rapes are false reports.
It is possible, however, that by posting their experiences and concerns, women here might enlighten other men here who then would understand why women take certain cautions while dating. Men might also make sure their daughters know to take similar cautions.
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Post by choosinghappy on Oct 7, 2018 9:19:52 GMT -5
No. Your profanity is not necessary and will not be tolerated. Yes, it is necessary. This is utter bullshit and I am honestly flabbergasted that not only do you believe it but you are spouting it here. Last weekend I was with a group of 4 other women, all between the ages of late 30s to mid-50s. We were discussing the topic of sexual assault and rape. As we talked, we learned that 4 out of 5 of us had been sexually assaulted or raped, some violently. All different ages, all from different parts of the country, all with different life experiences, and ALL went unreported. And this is not uncommon. GC I think your mind and your perspective are being poisoned by those “men’s issues” articles you seem to often be reading. And I’m no woman’s rights activist. I’m just a woman. Living in today’s world. Understanding that there will always be SOME crazy women who will falsely accuse men and no, it is not right. But to extrapolate that minor number and claim that women as a whole owe men an apology for a select few crazies while intentionally disregarding the exponentially larger issue of at least 20% of all women being sexually assaulted or raped in their lifetime (and reported less than half the time) is asinine and obtuse. GC, please read the attached as a bit of perspective on what it is like to live in America as a woman. This is certainly my reality and the reality of MANY others. And please also stop pretending that someone using a swear word is in any way equivalent to how incredibly insulting what you posted is to any of us who have been sexually assaulted or raped. [NOTE: I apologize to others for this tangent as it has nothing to do with the original post. I just could not allow this ignorance to go unaddressed. I’ve said my piece and will not be responding to anything further on this topic in the interest of continuing the original conversation.]
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