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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 4:07:32 GMT -5
elynne Although I am hardly an art expert, you have undeniable talent and creativity. I cannot help but wonder how differently you would paint/present yourself as you were at that conference.
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Post by elynne on May 28, 2018 4:39:17 GMT -5
elynneAlthough i am hardly an art expert, you have undeniable talent and creativity. I cannot help but wonder how differently you would paint/present yourself as you were at that conference. 🤗Thanks. I’m exploring the philosophical viewpoints that I was exposed to at the conference. Keeping in touch with some pretty amazing people that I met; a curator, philosopher, academics, other painters. It’s a springboard for new directions. H can’t keep me down. He may slow me down, but I’ve got stamina. I’m currently thinking about modern society, how technology affects our culture and relationships and how to describe these impacts in the visual medium of classical painting. Are we truly less deeply connected? Or is it possible that our digital relationships allow us freedom to be completely honest, to connect with people who are geographically farther away but who are living parallel lives. Who get our struggles, who get us. I’ve found such an amazing amount of kindness, care, support and advice here. I’ve cried reading posts. I’ve felt other’s pain. I’ve hurt for other’s hurts. I’ve learned about myself as I see others walking a similar path. I think of the regulars here as friends. Real friends. I can read a post and know exactly who wrote it without reading the screen name. How to translate those concepts into painting I’m still puzzling out. But if I can capture that - how cool would that be?! Being able to paint a sense of connection, belonging; a reaching through digital networks and not finding 0’s and 1’s but people, relationships, connection; love and acceptance. Look at shamwow and ballofconfusion. baza and @missenna. There’s incredible beauty in those stories of pain and struggle transforming into healing and true partnership. I think if I can capture those concepts visually, it becomes a commentary on our modern society, a beacon of hope in a disconnected world, a metaphor for healing and perhaps a roadmap for relationships. It’s a big leap. It’s a huge challenge. There will be lots of exploration, dead ends, unsuccessful paintings. But certainly a worthy goal. It will have to be multidisciplinary- I fixed the motherboard for the remote control to the water pump yesterday, cleaning off the corrosion and reassembling the parts. The support for the paintings could incorporate gold wire or conductive paint, painted in the patterns of motherboards, portraits painted overtop. An Arduino could allow the viewer to see the underlying connections of the people portrayed in a multiple figure painting- lighting up pathways or perhaps lights installed above the painting that illuminate or cast different figures into shadow. Still working on the concepts, but the whole process of exploring this makes my pulse beat faster, it gets me so turned on and excited. But in the coolest museums things are much more interactive. Kids can use virtual reality to sail ships or distribute packages, manage dikes and water. It would be awesome to paint classical paintings that are interactive. The triptych was a starting point - a painting that the viewer can open and close. But that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
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Post by choosinghappy on May 28, 2018 6:18:29 GMT -5
elynne you are so damn talented and smart. I share others’ frustrations (that you mentioned in your response to northstarmom) in you not choosing the path that seems obvious to many of us, but I do respect that this is YOUR self discovery journey. In the same breath, I wish you could see yourself the way we see you. You are not the person your H has convinced you that you are. And you have not turned your H into an asshole. He simply IS one.
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Post by elynne on May 28, 2018 7:13:46 GMT -5
elynne you are so damn talented and smart. I share others’ frustrations (that you mentioned in your response to northstarmom) in you not choosing the path that seems obvious to many of us, but I do respect that this is YOUR self discovery journey. In the same breath, I wish you could see yourself the way we see you. You are not the person your H has convinced you that you are. And you have not turned your H into an asshole. He simply IS one. Thanks! I’m working on it. Getting more feedback from outside of H’s sphere of influence is a big step in seeing myself more accurately; more accurate mirrors - so to speak. You guys are awesome.
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Post by greatcoastal on May 28, 2018 7:23:31 GMT -5
1) H and I where talking about one of his x's. How many ex's does he have? (another red flag about this guy)
2) Why does she date men that treat her so badly? H's response "she brings out the worst in people". (another red flag about this guy)
3) You spotted it and went on to define how wrong his self absorbed narcissistic logic is. So know you need to continue to learn that this is the same logic that he uses on you, and everyone else including his daughters. (what an accurate mirror! right?)
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Post by shamwow on May 28, 2018 9:15:55 GMT -5
elynneAlthough i am hardly an art expert, you have undeniable talent and creativity. I cannot help but wonder how differently you would paint/present yourself as you were at that conference. 🤗Thanks. I’m exploring the philosophical viewpoints that I was exposed to at the conference. Keeping in touch with some pretty amazing people that I met; a curator, philosopher, academics, other painters. It’s a springboard for new directions. H can’t keep me down. He may slow me down, but I’ve got stamina. I’m currently thinking about modern society, how technology affects our culture and relationships and how to describe these impacts in the visual medium of classical painting. Are we truly less deeply connected? Or is it possible that our digital relationships allow us freedom to be completely honest, to connect with people who are geographically farther away but who are living parallel lives. Who get our struggles, who get us. I’ve found such an amazing amount of kindness, care, support and advice here. I’ve cried reading posts. I’ve felt other’s pain. I’ve hurt for other’s hurts. I’ve learned about myself as I see others walking a similar path. I think of the regulars here as friends. Real friends. I can read a post and know exactly who wrote it without reading the screen name. How to translate those concepts into painting I’m still puzzling out. But if I can capture that - how cool would that be?! Being able to paint a sense of connection, belonging; a reaching through digital networks and not finding 0’s and 1’s but people, relationships, connection; love and acceptance. Look at shamwow and ballofconfusion. baza and @missenna. There’s incredible beauty in those stories of pain and struggle transforming into healing and true partnership. I think if I can capture those concepts visually, it becomes a commentary on our modern society, a beacon of hope in a disconnected world, a metaphor for healing and perhaps a roadmap for relationships. It’s a big leap. It’s a huge challenge. There will be lots of exploration, dead ends, unsuccessful paintings. But certainly a worthy goal. It will have to be multidisciplinary- I fixed the motherboard for the remote control to the water pump yesterday, cleaning off the corrosion and reassembling the parts. The support for the paintings could incorporate gold wire or conductive paint, painted in the patterns of motherboards, portraits painted overtop. An Arduino could allow the viewer to see the underlying connections of the people portrayed in a multiple figure painting- lighting up pathways or perhaps lights installed above the painting that illuminate or cast different figures into shadow. Still working on the concepts, but the whole process of exploring this makes my pulse beat faster, it gets me so turned on and excited. But in the coolest museums things are much more interactive. Kids can use virtual reality to sail ships or distribute packages, manage dikes and water. It would be awesome to paint classical paintings that are interactive. The triptych was a starting point - a painting that the viewer can open and close. But that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The technology is just a tool. It all matters how we use it. On one hand my ex wife hadn't told me she loved me to my face in a dozen years. Yet 15 feet away on our final anniversary she blasted out to the world on Facebook how much she loved me for public consumption. On the other hand from the absolute get-go ballofconfusion and I have had an absolute no-bullshit relationship. We've told each other things we never thought we would tell another person. We did this because, obviously, there was no way we would ever meet this person. So rather than starting a relationship like most do - putting your best image forward and hoping to when the truth finally comes out they don't run away screaming, all our warts are already out there. BOC and I have a very unorthodox relationship because of technology. We chat via KIK more in a day than my ex and I talked in a month. Every night we set up Skype to be as close to the other as we can. When I have nightmares she is there in the night to calm me down. Hell, a couple weeks ago I "experienced" my first live earthquake over Skype. We use technology to schedule the times we see each other every two weeks. Hell, I MET her on this forum, another technology. In two years her youngest leaves the nest. When that happens the plan is for her to move to Houston. At that point we will have a more "conventional" relationship. But I just moved into the house we will share. When I looked at houses I had Skype out and we walked from room to room. That's important because it's OUR home, not my home. In four years my youngest leaves the nest. At that point our plan is to leave the country and live in various other countries for 6 month to two year stints. I'm a software developer by trade so (again because of technology) I can work anywhere. We can live abroad and I can make close to US wages. So all of this is possible because we love each other like we never thought possible. And technology makes this love a realistic possibility. Not sure how to incorporate it into your art but without the technology this would be impossible. I am so grateful for it.
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Post by elynne on May 28, 2018 9:22:03 GMT -5
🤗Thanks. I’m exploring the philosophical viewpoints that I was exposed to at the conference. Keeping in touch with some pretty amazing people that I met; a curator, philosopher, academics, other painters. It’s a springboard for new directions. H can’t keep me down. He may slow me down, but I’ve got stamina. I’m currently thinking about modern society, how technology affects our culture and relationships and how to describe these impacts in the visual medium of classical painting. Are we truly less deeply connected? Or is it possible that our digital relationships allow us freedom to be completely honest, to connect with people who are geographically farther away but who are living parallel lives. Who get our struggles, who get us. I’ve found such an amazing amount of kindness, care, support and advice here. I’ve cried reading posts. I’ve felt other’s pain. I’ve hurt for other’s hurts. I’ve learned about myself as I see others walking a similar path. I think of the regulars here as friends. Real friends. I can read a post and know exactly who wrote it without reading the screen name. How to translate those concepts into painting I’m still puzzling out. But if I can capture that - how cool would that be?! Being able to paint a sense of connection, belonging; a reaching through digital networks and not finding 0’s and 1’s but people, relationships, connection; love and acceptance. Look at shamwow and ballofconfusion. baza and @missenna. There’s incredible beauty in those stories of pain and struggle transforming into healing and true partnership. I think if I can capture those concepts visually, it becomes a commentary on our modern society, a beacon of hope in a disconnected world, a metaphor for healing and perhaps a roadmap for relationships. It’s a big leap. It’s a huge challenge. There will be lots of exploration, dead ends, unsuccessful paintings. But certainly a worthy goal. It will have to be multidisciplinary- I fixed the motherboard for the remote control to the water pump yesterday, cleaning off the corrosion and reassembling the parts. The support for the paintings could incorporate gold wire or conductive paint, painted in the patterns of motherboards, portraits painted overtop. An Arduino could allow the viewer to see the underlying connections of the people portrayed in a multiple figure painting- lighting up pathways or perhaps lights installed above the painting that illuminate or cast different figures into shadow. Still working on the concepts, but the whole process of exploring this makes my pulse beat faster, it gets me so turned on and excited. But in the coolest museums things are much more interactive. Kids can use virtual reality to sail ships or distribute packages, manage dikes and water. It would be awesome to paint classical paintings that are interactive. The triptych was a starting point - a painting that the viewer can open and close. But that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The technology is just a tool. It all matters how we use it. On one hand my ex wife hadn't told me she loved me to my face in a dozen years. Yet 15 feet away on our final anniversary she blasted out to the world on Facebook how much she loved me for public consumption. On the other hand from the absolute get-go ballofconfusion and I have had an absolute no-bullshit relationship. We've told each other things we never thought we would tell another person. We did this because, obviously, there was no way we would ever meet this person. So rather than starting a relationship like most do - putting your best image forward and hoping to when the truth finally comes out they don't run away screaming, all our warts are already out there. BOC and I have a very unorthodox relationship because of technology. We chat via KIK more in a day than my ex and I talked in a month. Every night we set up Skype to be as close to the other as we can. When I have nightmares she is there in the night to calm me down. Hell, a couple weeks ago I "experienced" my first live earthquake over Skype. We use technology to schedule the times we see each other every two weeks. Hell, I MET her on this forum, another technology. In two years her youngest leaves the nest. When that happens the plan is for her to move to Houston. At that point we will have a more "conventional" relationship. But I just moved into the house we will share. When I looked at houses I had Skype out and we walked from room to room. That's important because it's OUR home, not my home. In four years my youngest leaves the nest. At that point our plan is to leave the country and live in various other countries for 6 month to two year stints. I'm a software developer by trade so (again because of technology) I can work anywhere. We can live abroad and I can make close to US wages. So all of this is possible because we love each other like we never thought possible. And technology makes this love a realistic possibility. Not sure how to incorporate it into your art but without the technology this would be impossible. I am so grateful for it. It’a so cool to see a real life example of technology fostering and strengthening intimacy. It really is just a tool and it can be used or misused. There are certainly many more instances of spouses, even friends checking out of real life interactions by tuning into their phones. I think you and BOC are definitely the poster children for technology being used to foster and strengthen a relationship. It’s pretty damn cool.
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