The first real attempt was after a failed reconciliation, about a year or more following Mrs Apocrypha's revelation of her affair. It took that long to claw back to zero, not helped by the fact that she pined for him. The trigger was a conversation I had in couples counselling when I noted that while we were kind to each other, sex hadn't appeared and we were still effectively celibate. We lawyered up and opening interviews were done. Two weeks later, I asked her if she was done with having sex forever, and relieved. She responded by pitching opening the relationship.At the time, I would say that this marked the end of that relationship, and started a new one but with the same person. The rules and the way we went about things was quite different.
The second attempt was a few years later when it became apparent that the open relationship wasn't working, due to her constant passive aggressive sabotage, and also, yet again, a return to celibacy. At the brink, we returned to therapy but with a different counselor.
The third attempt was maybe six months later or less, after a save the marriage family vacation shortly followed by a family weekend getaway. Celibacy remained, and contempt. The trigger was me watching a 50-something couple out on a date and just being casually "into each other". We agreed to split that night, made plans on how to do that in the short and mid term, and then enacted those plans.
frednsa: i saw something on the wedding night (in the 60's) should have ended it during the honeymoon. i was played so perfectly. she is so wonderful in almost every other way, so...still wondering...thinking frigidity is a real thing and untreatable
Aug 29, 2019 12:07:04 GMT -5
worksforme2: Tomorrow is Labor Day 2019, no big plans for the day....thinking seriously of going commando
Sept 1, 2019 11:37:07 GMT -5
worksforme2: Hey ironhamster...I just saw your picture on another site and your head wasn't covered. You actually look better without the bandana....
Sept 2, 2019 11:54:55 GMT -5
javba: Dunno Iron Hamster - I have not seen your other photo - I think you ROCK anyways.
Sept 4, 2019 10:11:42 GMT -5
worksforme2: Happened across Tamara68 on another site, messaged her but she didn't respond...
Sept 15, 2019 13:13:02 GMT -5
elkclan2: Dealing with an escaped gerbil. Fun times.
Sept 16, 2019 13:01:50 GMT -5
misssunnybunny: 1. Hope tamara is doing well. 2. Elkclan2, did you catch the critter???
Sept 17, 2019 15:40:05 GMT -5
worksforme2: Tamara answered me yesterday. She and her partner are moving into a house next week. It's probably about as good as is possible. She didn't comment on the situation with her daughter.
Sept 17, 2019 17:46:02 GMT -5
misssunnybunny: Thanks for the update; just hope she is happy
Sept 17, 2019 19:49:55 GMT -5
workingonit: Elkclan2 my son's gerbil escaped at the same time as his pet snake. I did not think it was a coincidence!
Sept 17, 2019 20:40:26 GMT -5
hopingforachange: Wow, is been forever since I read the shoutbox.
Sept 17, 2019 21:33:01 GMT -5
hopingforachange: I need to set up another Skype session.
Sept 17, 2019 21:33:16 GMT -5
sme935: Not quite sure if anyone reads it but if there is a female in the Chicago area (40-60 years old) who is interested in chatting with me drop me a message or look at my profile for messenger screenname;
Sept 19, 2019 9:09:33 GMT -5
misssunnybunny: Another Skype session would be great!
Sept 21, 2019 10:51:02 GMT -5